Tuesday, November 23, 2010

Should teachers with master’s degrees be paid more if it doesn’t help kids?

Economists want to stop teachers’ degree bonuses

Donna Gordon Blankinship, Associated Press - Nov 22, 2010

SEATTLE (AP) — Every year, American schools pay more than $8.6 billion in bonuses to teachers with master’s degrees, even though the idea that a higher degree makes a teacher more effective has been mostly debunked.

Despite more than a decade of research showing the money has little impact on student achievement, state lawmakers and other officials have been reluctant to tackle this popular way for teachers to earn more money.

That could soon change, as local school districts around the country grapple with shrinking budgets.

Just this week, U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan said the economy has given the nation an opportunity to make dramatic improvements in the productivity of its education system and to do more of what works and less of what doesn’t.

Duncan told the American Enterprise Institute on Wednesday that master’s degree bonuses are an example of spending money on something that doesn’t work.

On Friday, billionaire Bill Gates took aim at school budgets and the master’s degree bonus.

“My own state of Washington has an average salary bump of nearly $11,000 for a master’s degree — and more than half of our teachers get it. That’s more than $300 million every year that doesn’t help kids,” he said.

“And that’s one state,” said Gates, the co-chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, at a speech Friday in Louisville to the Council of Chief State School Officers. Gates also took aim at pensions and seniority.

“Of course, restructuring pay systems is like kicking a beehive,” he acknowledged.

As of 2008, 48 percent of public school teachers in this country had a master’s degree or above, and nearly every one of them got a bonus of between $1,423 and $10,777 each year, according to research from the University of Washington.

Most school budgets have been tight for years, with districts trimming everything from printing to teachers.

Michael Podgursky, an economics professor at the University of Missouri, said the economic downturn may force payroll reform in some places where the political will has been lacking. And they don’t have to blow up the old system to do it, he said.

“We’re experimenting now,” he said, noting pay-for-performance experiments in New York City, Houston and Nashville.

Ninety percent of teachers’ masters degrees are in education, not subjects such as English or math, according to a study by Marguerite Roza and Raegen Miller for the Center on Reinventing Education at the University of Washington.

Their colleague, research professor Dan Goldhaber, explained that that research dating back to a study he did in 1997 has shown that students of teachers with master’s degrees show no better progress in student achievement than their peers taught by teachers without advanced degrees.

Goldhaber said his findings were criticized vehemently in the 1990s, but repeated studies since then have confirmed the results.

Roza and Miller found more than 2 percent of total education spending in 13 states — Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Minnesota, Nevada, New York, Ohio and South Carolina, plus Washington and Nebraska, where the dollars topped 3 percent — went to masters degree bonuses.

The American Federation of Teachers, the nation’s second largest teachers union doesn’t oppose changes in the way teachers are paid and is willing to talk about just about any reform idea, said Rob Weil, deputy director of educational issues.

“We’re not opposed to looking at compensation systems and making sure our compensation moves forward and changes with the times,” he said. But, he adds, “Change for change’s sake isn’t what we ought to be doing.”

Weil said the problem is that most school districts don’t know what they want to do instead of the traditional salary schedule that gives teachers more money for years of service and additional education.

“I go into school districts all the time and say, ‘What do you want to pay for?’ and that’s when nobody’s home,” he said.

The National Education Association, which is the nation’s largest teacher’s union, has floated the idea of paying higher starting salaries for teachers to attract more and better teachers to the profession. Others have suggested rewarding teachers for student achievement gains.

American teacher pay has been structured the same way in every state since before World War II. Before then, high school teachers were paid more than primary school instructors. Establishing one pay rate was a feminist issue since teachers in the younger grades used to be mostly women and most high school teachers were men.

Even in states where teacher pay is set by the school district according to market factors, the pay schedule has been the same way for many decades, Podgursky said.

Debating a change could be more controversial and unpopular than cutting chocolate milk from the school cafeteria menu.

But education economists believe this idea can’t be ignored forever, because teacher pay is the biggest part of education budgets and the salary schedule drives that spending.

Erick Hanushek, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, said this kind of contract change would be difficult but not impossible, despite teachers unions being among the most influential lobbies in many state capitols.

School districts won’t save much money because they won’t be able to cut teacher pay overall, but they could start redirecting cash to the most effective teachers, as measured in ways other than what degrees they have earned, he said.

Teachers may need to accept a two-tiered system at first to grandfather in those getting the bonuses. The biggest losers will be university education schools, because they make a lot of money on master’s degrees, Hanushek said.

“There’s a relationship between education schools and teachers that is not particularly healthy,” he said.

Hanushek said the University of Washington estimate of the $8.6 billion annual cost of master’s degree money is low.

“It’s what you would call free money, but not from a political standpoint,” he said.

How a Teacher Salary Schedule Works

Friday, November 12, 2010

Vice President Funny Business?

This was posted today. At our last general membership meeting the (former) vice president submitted a letter of resignation.

ESP VICE PRESIDENT
DE PERE SUPPORT STAFF VICE PRESIDENCY POSITION HAS BEEN FILLED. SUE S**** WILL BE THE ACTING VICE PRESIDENT UNTIL THE SPRING ELECTION.
JUST A REMINDER – IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR THIS POSITION QUALIFICATIONS ARE A MAJOR CONSIDERATION. YOU MUST BE INVOLVED IN THE UNION AND HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE UNION.

Knowing that there was at least one other candidate that expressed interest in the position, I wrote an email to our president and included a voicemail directly from this candidate.

J*****,

We went over the bylaws last summer. Did it not state that the only qualifications to be an officer is to be a member?

Article V, Section 2- Qualifications for Office

"Each candidate for office shall be an active member of the De Pere Educational Support Personnel Association in good standing."

Please do not misconstrue "Active Membership".. It is defined under Article IV, Section 1... In short.. "Active membership shall be continuous until the member leaves the school system, resigns from the Association, or fails to pay membership dues."

I know at least one other person expressed interested in the interim vice president position. They also stated they have served on a union committee at a previous employer.

I was going to wait to bring this up at the next meeting. Please consider the potentially deterring message this sends when we have such a low percentage of members involved at local meetings.

Thanks,
S***** *********

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Voicemail System
Transcript:
Hey S***, this is N*** from the High School.S**** showed me your email.Mainly what happened was, I put my name in for the vice-president position, through a note and she sent me the whole memo back with the part of the qualifications highlighted.

Pretty much I thought you just had to be a union member, but I put that I was on the audit committee when I was working for an electrical company.

I haven't anything back since, and that was probably two weeks ago.

If you have any more questions, give me a call back.
----------End Forwarded Message ----------
To further,

I realize the president has the power to appoint anyone when a position is vacated mid-term. However please consider that the selection made does appear like a mis-use of power if there were other interested candidates.

Odd that the general membership has seen and spoken:

April 29th, 2006 marked the first annual Treasures report for the De Pere Educational Support Association in well over 5 years. Oddly enough, local treasurer Sue S**** was not present at this meeting. In a notice a few days after the meeting from the Union president the discrepancies discussed at the meting were clarified.

"The 3 sheets that were included in the packet were not for our union. They were samples sent from WEAC from other teacher unions and intended only to be used as an example for us when setting up our reports. When I printed off the reports I inadvertently included these and they were included in the packet."

In the March 2010 De Pere Educational Support Association officer election, 23 year veteran treasurer Sue S**** was defeated, by a 57 to 44 vote.

At this same meeting a motion was made and approved to form an Audit committee, to ensure that the hand-off to the new treasurer would be a smooth transition. It was noted that we had never performed an audit before.

At the October 2010 general membership meeting, the audit committee reported their findings. There was a lack of receipts for checks written.

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The general membership did not re-elect Sue S****. While this is a different position, it looks highly suspicious that Shirley steps down as VP only a meeting or two after being re-elected, oddly enough enabling Sue to come back.

I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I am just trying to point out why there might only be 12 or less people at a meeting. Think a minute how that sits with people. It's much like the current big government not listening to the people, IMHO.

S****

I also sent this "union" in review email:
This union is a joke. And I am ashamed of it.

We had a 20 some year veteran treasurer that didn’t make annual reports or save receipts.

We had several years where we skipped meetings and elections. Some times you had to petition just to have meetings.

Either way the meetings had little semblance of order.

You can’t volunteer or get involved because your told you don’t have experience. Yet they stress that less than 12% of members are involved.

Most often any type of question results in some sort of cold shoulder response.

If your having issues with co-workers and your supervisor isn’t addressing it, you are told you can only go to the union as a last resort.

Sadly the regional office isn’t much better.

You have to call multiple times, because calls are not always returned. Two part questions often yield one part responses.

Some times you end up sending certified letters.

They tell you in one breath they can’t get involved in local matters. They intervene when you don’t want them to.

Seems WEAC training has taught everyone well. It’s a dirty shame the deductions are automatic.

Now you know why I am often so cynical about it. Can you blame me?

Her response:
S****,

Before you speak about mis-use of power you should know the facts. It was not me alone that selected Sue S****, it was the executive committee. It was decided after we discussed Sue's qualifications and Nick's qualifications. We unanimously decided to have Sue be the interim vice president until elections for this position in the spring. As a group we said it would be nice to get someone new in but we had some reservations with Nick. Nick or anyone else is more than welcome to run for this office in the spring. I would strongly suggest that whomever does that they try to go for some training and attend our meetings.

If you recall at the time we had elections no one ran against Shirley so that is why she stayed in office. Because of the possibility of her retiring next year she decided to step down.

Going back to the 2006 meeting Sue was not present because she was in Madison at a WEAC meeting. Sue had emailed me the treasurer's report which was in an excel document and I inadvertently printed pages that were not for our union. The report showed an error of 30 some cents but there really was no error. The numbers in the spreadsheet were correct and when rechecked it was the balance total figure that was typed incorrectly.

When the audit committee reviewed what they had, the bank statements all matched with money received and dispensed. If you recall it was the decision of those present to accept the treasurer's books and move on. The union books Shirley G****** kept had the information regarding what was decided on to be paid out as stipends for attending meetings. These books were given to Jayne M***** but never passed on to me.

Regarding issues with co-workers I have been working to get things resolved. I have made suggestions to members regarding what they should do. I have gone to Pat M****, Edith R*****, Ben V******** and Kirby K**** trying to resolve matters. Also do you realize that the union cannot take a stance when it comes to union member vs union member? Unless members do what they need to do they can not expect me to do it for them. They need to be their own advocate. Gossip among members is what is behind the majority of the problems and it needs to stop.

I am sorry that you feel the way you do. Maybe you should consider running for an office if you feel that you could do a better job. The reason why so many people don't attend meetings is because they are fine with the way things are and don't want to give up their time.

Janice

Janice,

Thanks for the reply.

In my opinion this would have been a very nice opportunity for someone new or with less experience to get their feet wet. An interim (non full term) position is a great sink-or-swim chance for someone. (If they do well the membership can re-elect them, if not, they had their chance.) "Qualifications" can be a ambiguous word as exemplified by how things have been in the past with this union. (Lack of meetings, reports, etc. despite the combined veteran experience of past officers.)

I understand all the other situations. And on a more positive note, I think we have made major advancements in the last couple years. Again my glass-half-empty approach can be usefull if one applies it as a possible explanation why there is little involvement and turn out. Please remember that the not-so positive observations that I pointed out, unfortunately are the ones that people are likely to remember.

A plausible reverse-reason that there is little attendance at meetings is because they have been ignored and beat into submission before and feel things will likely never change, and think "so why bother?".
Again that is my cynical or glass-half-empty reverse view that also needs to be taken into consideration.

My communication concerns the image the union leaves with it's members and the district, I'm glad we can agree to disagree.

In my opinion everything needs balance, the best job I can do at this point is provide that, because after all I am not formally qualified anyway.

S****